Kamis, 24 Oktober 2013

How do I write the word vegetarian in Elven?

Q. It's a strange and odd request, but I'm looking to get this word (or something close to it) tattooed on me. I've been a vegetarian for 22 years now (my entire life), and a huge fan of Tolken. So, if anyone can help me out, it'd be fantastic.

A. Due to the incompleteness of Tolkien's Elven languages I recommend to use a simple transcription of the English word to Tengwar (one of his scripts).
Here is one possible way to write it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32039090@N02/8287668894/in/photostream
You can check the letters with:
http://at.mansbjorkman.net/teng_general_english.htm
or http://www.acondia.com/fonts/tengwar/info/english.htm
Please note that I wrote G as J [dʒ], like it is spoken.

In Tolkien's Elven languages my first thought would go to something that might be construed as an insult, depending on how you see yourself. This is due to the difficulty expressing this idea in an incomplete language.

Sindarin (Grey-Elven):
Lassvador (masc.), Lassvadeth (fem.) -> leaf-eater -> lass - leaf + mad- - to eat; here mutated to vad- + -or - male name ending/-eth - female name ending (=woman)
Galasvador/Galasvadeth -> plant-eater -> galas - growth, plant
Galasben -> plant-somebody -> galas + pen - one, somebody; mut. ben
Dictionary: http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/online/english.html (see A1 and A2)
Grammar: http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/sindarin.htm

Quenya (High-Elven):
Laimamatindo (masc.), Laimamatinde (fem.) -> plant-eater -> laima - plant + mat- - to eat + -indo/-inde - "doer" (person connected to the verbal action)
Laimamo (m.), Laimame (f.) -> plant-person -> laima + -mo/-me - person connected to the noun
Dictionaries:
http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/Quettaparma.pdf
http://www.ambar-eldaron.com/telechargements/quenya-engl-A4.pdf
Grammar: http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/quenya.htm

If you come up with any (better) ideas and aren't sure about the grammar or want to see them in Tengwar, or if you have any questions about this, feel free to send me a message.


Is it true that only female prostitutes used to get tattoos?
Q. My grandma (old old old fashioned) told me when she was growing up, only prostitutes got tattoos. Is this true?
She said that's how pimps marked their prostitutes.
Could it be that in certain cultures, this was the case?

A. After researching, some sources indicate that that was indeed the case! But obviously, there's other sources out there and when talking about history, there's always many other sides to an argument.

I found this link, which basically talks about tattoos & women. If you scroll down, you can see that it says this: " America, during the 30s, a psychiatrist and writer by the name of Albert Parry wrote about and spread the idea of deviance in correlation to tattoos. Parry especially shined a negative light on women, who possess tattoos, by giving them the stigma of "abnormal and accessible commodities". He also preached the idea that mostly prostitutes were the ones to get tattoos and he "relished the stereotype of tattooing as a perverse and deviant activity."
This is the link for that info: http://www.indiana.edu/~urbanflk/body_art/patterson1.html

Want even more OLD-school info relating to that? The following link talks about tattoos found on ancient Egyptian women, who were thought to be "dancing girls."
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/tattoo.html?c=y&page=2

Good luck & hope this helps you out!





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